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#2966 10/23/07 Don't Let Your PrivatePhone.com Number Be Deactivated!
PrivatePhone.com numbers that are not being called and a voicemail left (even if by you!) at least once or twice are being deactivated. Check the email associated with this free voicemail number to make sure you haven't been notified that your number, especially if it's associated with a bank account, credit card or business (or you gave it to the IRS or another creditor!) is about to be or has been deactivated. Follow the instruction in the email to keep your number valid (and in the databases as a legitimate contact number for you or your business) to prevent suspicion about you or your business from a canceled number.

Wendy, ,      Age: 43

#2965 10/23/07 Re: Jacky & Discount Cards
Jacky, I'd check with your state's consumer affairs office to see if it's legal for a store in your state to deny you ADVERTISED sales prices because you refuse to provide your information for their database to get a store discount card. It's probably illegal for a store to do so and you may be able to tell the store manager that. However, I can tell you that here, I've gotten and regularly use the major drug and grocery store discount cards (including Kroger) and simply haven't given them ANY information. I tell them I'll fill the database card out later and never return the card. When they've insisted, I've ignored them (or in the case of one store, gave completely bogus address info and Private Phone number; I used an LLC, business address in another state and PrivatePhone.com number in that state for my Best Buy card). I really don't think stores here can deny me the advertised sales price because I refuse to complete their database cards so I simply won't. Guess what? The cards work fine with no (or little accurate) information associated with it that leads back to me, personally. Remember, however, using the store discount cards with a personal debit/credit card may lead to your info being connected to the card in some database anyway. (Similarly, in cases where getting a discount or rebate compromises your privacy (i.e., you have to fill out a form to get coupons mailed to you, deposit a rebate check in your personal bank account OR provide accurate info in order to have points earned credited to some charity), ask yourself if if it's worth it.) Providing no info and using only cash is the only certain way to prevent info about you from being linked in databases. In cases where you have to provide some info, either do without the discount or do whatever you can, within the law, to thwart accurate information about you being added to any marketing (and, ultimately, commercial) database and you'll be fine.

Wendy, ,      Age: 43

#2963 10/23/07 why are grocery stores making us posess cards?
Can stores really refuse me savings others get because i dont have a kroger card? They want all kinds of info im not willing to give. not having one costs me a good ten dollars for every grocery shopping trip. i usually ask another customer for theirs because the cashiers are no longer allowed to use their own cards for customers. can they get away with this? Because i wont give out my information?

jacky randal, ,      Age: 34
Why not give them information that does not lead back to you, as some other readers do?

#2962 10/23/07 pt travel to Mexico
You have said you travel with two laptops. Does that look out of place say when going into mexico on foot or by car? Do they try to hit you up for more taxes, or do they ask why you have two, and if so what is a appropriate answer to tell them? Anything else we need to know?

Experiences to other countries would be secondary in importance but will also be appreciated.

frank, ,      Age: 39
When I say I travel with two laptops, that applies to the U.S. and Canada. I never go to Mexico anymore, given the corrupt police there. (Driving back and forth across the Canadian border has never been a problem. I have never been asked if I have even ONE laptop.)

#2961 10/22/07 NSA
I must be missing something in the exchange about NSA access to computers through Microsoft software. The position that the suggestions are false is premised on laws governing NSA, but acknowledges the wiretapping at the President's direction after 9/11, which is generally acknowledged as violating the law. My understanding has been that we should not assume our privacy is secure because some law protects it. Why should we trust NSA to adhere to the law when we know that at least on one significant issue, it did not?

Gene, ,      Age: 69

#2960 10/22/07 Masking your IP address
There are hundreds of products and services that purport to hide one's IP address when using the Internet. Does anyone have any positive experiences with any of them?

Patrick, ,      Age: 28
I don't trust any of them, and so have never used them.

#2959 10/22/07 "Marcia from Des Moines"

... Marcia, I received your order for the e-book "Invisible Money" but you neglected to include your e-mail address. Please send it along!
... -- JJL

Jack, ,      Age: 79

#2958 10/22/07 Passwords & Encryption
FYI - Folks who use Macs and may be looking for a means of securing data can now download a new version of Password Repository (2.4) for free on the Apple site.

To quote, "...users store and manage all their passwords inside a structured document using a master and details view. Password Repository shows data in a table view and lets the user order items by any columns with just a click. It uses categories with custom color labels to help store passwords in structured and smart way. Any content is searchable using a search field with data displayed as-you-type".

I'm using it and find it to be intuitive and effective.
Any feedback from the techies is welcome.

Jack, ,      Age: 54

#2954 10/21/07 Voting Privacy
That article on voting records merely confirmed to me my suspicious on the availability of voting records for whomsoever.

In the last election, I was disturbed when the ballot I received was numbered and recorded as being the ballot I was issued.




Theresa, ,      Age: 43

#2953 10/21/07 NCOA info about USPS database LACS
How the USPS NCOA database works.
This PDF file below has a lot of information and even statistics on change of address and mail forwarding.

FYI this data is kept by USPS for 4 years!

-Byron


NCOALink service is offered by licensees of the USPS. The source of the NCOALink data is a permanent Change of Address (COA) filed by the relocating postal customer.

Lorton Data offers database, mailing list, and data conversion services to businesses nationwide.
NCOA ORDER FORM HELP GUIDELINE
http://www.lortondata.com/info/ncoa_order_form.pdf

also http://www.lortondata.com/cgi/lacs.asp
The 911 emergency program has caused local governments to convert rural route addresses to street style addresses. Because the residents do not actually move when they receive a new address, change of address forms are not filed. The local governments work with the local Post Office™ to update the delivery addresses. The new addresses (address conversions) are forwarded by the local Post Office. These address changes are then compiled to create the LACSLink database.
URL #1: http://www.lortondata.com/info/ncoa_order_form.pdf

Byron, ,      Age: 29

#2951 10/20/07 Proof that not in Voting overated, but it has no privacy
JJ, this is just an example of how electronic voting will take what many people think of to be a private act, by making voting records open to the public.
URL #1: http://www.theotherpaper.com/top10-18/coverstory.htm

Mike, ,      Age: 36

#2950 10/18/07 Wash State Business License
How can someone open a bank account with a NM business entity in the state of Washington when no bank in this state will not open a business account without a business license from the city/state? Many states do not have this as a requirement for opening a business account, but Washington does.

Thanks so much.

Suz, ,      Age: 56
First, I have NEVER advocated opening a bank account with an LLC, as long-time readers of this forum well know.
... Second, if you live in Washington, why not open an account elsewhere?
... Third, do I correctly guess that you have not yet read my "Invisible Money" e-book?

#2946 10/18/07 2944: NSA Article
This article has been displayed here before and it is a waste. It is complete speculation and does not do justice to what the US Gov't does with the NSA. First, the NSA - by law - is not permitted to share any trade secrets discovered with the interception operations with any US companies ... this is not true of several European operations (France and Germany are prime examples). Secondly, the NSA mission has not changed; it's job has been and remains to be the interception of communications into and external to the United States. The post 9/11 wiretaps were due to a lack of capability by the FBI (now DHS, which still does not have hardly any capabilities). This was done at the objection of the NSA management and the insistence of the President of the United States. When it comes to the NSA's operation, I think that most people are extremely confused as to its role, do to the secretive nature of the entity and do not understand that their local mayor has better abilities (with fewer controls) than that of the NSA where the controls are so stringent that many people argue that it was the controls that allowed the 9/11 event to occur, sadly. The controls are needed and are in place for this reason

Mike, ,      Age: 36

#2945 10/17/07
Has this book been translated to French?

If so, where can I buy one?

jb, ,      Age: 50
French, no. Japanese, yes.

#2944 10/17/07 NSA may be Reading your Computer
FYI: "European investigative reporter Duncan Campbell claimed NSA had arranged with Microsoft to insert special "keys" in Windows software starting with versions from 95-OSR2 onwards."
URL #1: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00260.htm

John, ,      Age: 39
But see #2946, John.

#2943 10/17/07 LLC use in Canada?
In your book, How To Be Invisible, you suggested the use of LLCs for owning vehicles, real estate, etc. If the LLC was created in the US, does it need to register with Canadian authorities before it can be used in Canada? Would Canadian DMVs/land title offices recognize an American LLC that does not have a permanent establishment in Canada?
Thanks for your consideration.

John, ,      Age: 32
Although Canadians purchase LLCs, they never tell me how they use them. Would any of you Canadian readers like to enlighten us all?

#2939 10/16/07 Credit reports online or by mail
Bryon, so long as you can obtain your credit reports online, that is the better since you then don't have to ever reveal your new ghost address at all to the bureaus or the IRS. You can go in and ask at almost any mail/copy service place if they will accept and hold one piece of mail for you for a fee (typically it's $5 a piece, one place was $10 that I've used). Have your credit reports mailed to a one-time spot and make a note of the address you used (in case the bureau needs you to verify it someday). The best thing to do in general (IMHO), is to go paperless and have so little mail coming to you that it's cheaper to pay per piece than monthly!! Then, dice it up a bit... varying the location.

Marquette, ,      Age: 51

#2938 10/16/07 Re: Credit bureau report as a ghost
Byron, if I understand you correctly, you are trying to get your credit report at a ghost address. If you have your financial mailings sent to you at a CMRA, then that address is likely associated with your name and ss# with the CRAs (credit reporting agencies), especially if those mailings include things like credit card statements and student or other personal loan statements. You can find out by going to USSearch.com and putting your name and age into the search feature. If you see the city/state combo where your CMRA is located, then I'm right. If not, then you'll likely have to "prove" to the CRAs that your ghost address is a legitimate address. For that, you're asked for a lease/deed, utility bill, bank statement, etc. AND your social security card or driver's license. To solve this problem, I made my ghost address not just the one for my financial mailings, but also that where my vehicle is registered and insured. Because my ghost address has been used for those purpose as well as things like magazine subscriptions, that's now the PERSONAL address of record (where mail in my TRUE legal name goes) for the databases, local and state government and the feds, and which I use for travel, etc. I now easily and routinely get the CRAs to send me mailings from them to that address. It took about six months to accomplish this but was worth the effort and I make sure I keep paid the bill for my personal CMRA (and those for my businesses, which are all in the name of LLCs or Corporations and were opened by and are maintained by my nominee in in two different states and to which nearly no mail in my TRUE legal name goes). I also found a small CMRA chain in the area in which I'm physically located where I've been able to establish a mailing address under a pseudonym and where I now can have things sent/forwarded. The point is, determine what you want to use the ghost addresses for and, as long as you're not trying to commit fraud, you need to act confidently and insistently to make others use those address you've designated for specific purposes and those alone. I've been doing it almost a year and it works quite well.

Wendy, ,      Age: 43

#2937 10/16/07 Re: question about #2904
In Daniel's answer (#2904), it was mentioned about scribbing an illegible signature with the word "member" after it. That part sounds just fine. But does the DMV (for vehicle registration) or Title company (for house purchase) type out your actual name as "LLC member" on the forms in addition to requiring your signature?

Basically, just the written name of the LLC and an illegible signature will suffice? If so, I'm glad to know this because I was going to have to hire someone for the day to sign for me which is inconvenient being new to a city.

Thanks for your help.



Mary, ,      Age: 47
This may vary in some states, but in at least some states, my experience has been that the DMV clerk does not type in the name of the signer.
... In real estate, the name may or may not go into a computer. Many counties, for example, scan the actual documents and post them on the web, signatures and all.

#2936 10/16/07 Re: Jack 2916 Squeaky Clean
It seems that you're looking to prevent any chance of recovering the sensitive files in question or even any reference to them. This is possible. It'll be easier under Linux, but since you're probably using Windows, I've provided a link to Inferno, an open source utility that uses industry standard methods to delete items and erase them from your hard drive, permanently. You should also consider something to overwrite all your free space with random data. Once again, Open Source utilities are preferred. Eraser (http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/) does just that. For your reference purposes, I get most of my open source software off of Sourceforge.net, which is an Open Source Project Hosting site. Hopefully, these take care of it. Just reply here if you need more advice in this regard.
URL #1: http://inferno.sourceforge.net/

Elliott, ,      Age: 19

#2934 10/16/07 Credit bureau report as a ghost
I have moved out of my old residence and am somewhat of a ghost with a roommate who has all utilities and lease. I use an out-of-state CMRA PMB# to get my financial mailings. My drivers license shows my PO Box in the nearest city. In the past when my mailing address was my old rented apt. address I had my paper credit bureau reports mailed there.
Must I sign up on the website and only use the online version of a credit report from the credit bureaus?

Byron, ,      Age: 29

#2933 10/16/07 CNN article today - about Verizon giving out records without court orders/supeanos
Interesting article today about Verizon - it underscores the value and importance of not having any phone, internet service, tv service, etc. in your name or real address on any account -


URL #1: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/16/verizon.records/index.html

Marquette, ,      Age: 51

#2929 10/16/07 Password Generator
To those who have trouble creating password, there is an add-on feature to Firefox called Password Hasher that creates Passwords based on location with numbers attached. For those who would like to have the Portable Firefox Google Portable Application Firefox and go to the link. Download it and install in on your USB Flash drive. To get the Password Hasher go to Firefox add-ons and download, it is a small file.
For those who would like hide your folders, go to the link below and follow the directions, it is easy.The camoflaged folder also prevents the contents from being viewed.Read the reviews as to why you may want to camoflage your folders. If you have trouble, there is freeware you can download that they give the link to.
URL #1: http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-create-a-secured-and-locked-folder-in-windows-xp/

Hugh, ,      Age: 52

#2928 10/15/07 Mirra/Seagate Server
Thanks, JJL! I really like this idea; server on my desktop with backup online. I like the idea of my own server that, if necessary, I can disconnect and hide. I like anything I can lock away from unauthorized eyes. I also like the batcave concept ... I believe it's coming to that, if you really want privacy, but I'm good for now in that area, thanks, in part, to you (and living by those principles you once said on this site nobody would want to read about these days!).

Wendy, ,      Age: 43

#2927 10/15/07 Comcast Privacy Policies
This link details Comcast's policy on data retention, cooperation with law enforcement and customer privacy. According to the handbook, Comcast keeps logs for up to 180 days on IP address allocation, and they do not keep all of your e-mails forever (45 days at most). VoIP phone records are stored for 2 years, and cable records can only be retrieved upon a court order. The document even details how much it costs law enforcement to get access to personal data (data for child exploitation cases is free of charge).
URL #1: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/10/implementing_domestic_intellig.html

Charles, ,      Age: 39

#2926 10/15/07 voter registration <u>removal</u>
I used to live in Michigan, and was a regular voter. After the 2000 election, I was so disgusted I went to the same location where one goes to register to vote and told them I want to "unregister" to vote. They asked out of curiosity if I was moving or something. I mumbled something about warmer weather and they stopped asking questions. I didn't move for several more years. During this time, I had an opportunity to verify my removal and they did indeed "unregister" me.

Nick, ,      Age: 31

#2925 10/15/07 Voter Registration
Is there a way to remove my name from voter registration?

Theresa, ,      Age: 43
(See reply from Nick, above.)

#2924 10/15/07 College Will Kill Your Entrepreneurial Spirit
[Edited for length; reference for a web site deleted due to profanity there.] Quote from an article arguing for giving college a miss: "If you have a burning desire to start your own profitable business and you would like said desire beaten out of you slowly and surely, all you have to do is attend a state university. ‘Art History 101' might as well be renamed ‘Kill Your Dreams in One Semester Or Less.’" Also, as an aside, Gatto's "The Underground History of American Education" is great for learning what school does to you. JJ's "Skip College" will help motivate you to start to take back your life, income, and mind.

Nick, ,      Age: 25

#2923 10/15/07 How I got my prepaid master card
So I got my prepaid master card at money mart. I provided my passport a my I.D. Then I gave the lady my ghost address which was in my bank bill statement, but she didn't even ask for a proof of address! And then she asked for a "reference". I stalled for 2 minutes because I don't remember any of my friend's cell phone number ... I asked her if I can give it to her later. She said it's okay, she doesn't need it. Score! Well, that's all for now. Thanks Mr Luna for your awesome How to Be Invisible book,. I guess people my age don't take their personal privacy seriously (especially going to college) until they get robbed of their house keys and driver license ... which has their REAL home address.

Ken, ,      Age: 20

#2922 10/14/07 Re: #2907 - "Solitaire"
Solitaire Cipher?
-- see link below
URL #1: http://www.ciphergoth.org/crypto/solitaire/

Drake, ,      Age: 31

#2920 10/14/07 Online Storage
For some time, I've been considering using online storage of data files as a backup for my PC. I have a second hard drive, etc. but I like the idea of having as many backup sources as reasonably possible for a variety of reasons. However, I'm concerned about privacy. Does anyone use online storage and is it private? Who can see your files besides you? Can others get remote access to your actual pc hard drive through these accounts? Are there services that allow you to give accounts to nominees, etc.? I'd like, for example, to have my father download photos I scan of his work to his own computer. Can I allow that without compromising the privacy of either of our computers? Any help I can get would be appreciated and I hope responses will be both PRO and con. Thank you.

Wendy, ,      Age: 43
I suggest Mirra (mirra.com). It combines the best of both worlds:
...

First, it synchronizes on its own.
...

Second, it is available online, but you keep the hardware at your home,
office, secret batcave, etc.

#2919 10/14/07 Travel on the QT
Jack,
Is your e-book, Travel on the QT, still available? If so, I would like to purchase it. The excerpts you provided some time ago were a fun read. We have enjoyed camping fairly often the last three years in our 2003 17'Casita. Thanks.

Chen, ,      Age: 62
Yes, it is listed along with other books on this website. The title is "Off the Grid."

#2916 10/14/07 #2879 - Re: 2876 Computer Help
[Edited for length] This is in response to a previously posted inquiry about a program to keep my hard drives "squeaky clean." I am looking for something to keep my active-use hard drives under control while I use them ... something that destroys trace elements of existing materials. While I have no illegal or immoral intentions whatsoever, I also have no doubt that there is something sitting on them, somewhere, that I would not want to come to light under the wrong circumstances years down the road. In the meantime, I have two active-use hard drives, and I want to sleep easily knowing these put me in no danger. Is Evidence Eliminator the program of choice?

Jack, ,      Age: 20

#2914 10/14/07 Vehicle Registration
This is for those who have been having trouble Registering their vehicles. In Alaska, it seems to be much easier - save for the minimum amount of car insurance. Most questions are answered and the plus seems to be that a physical location must be indicated as in the following description. Another good reason to choose Alaska. The Alaskan DMV link is provided.
Physical address - Must be a physical location. Mail caches are not acceptable. If you do not have a
street address, you would enter a mile post and highway name, or another type of physical description.
URL #1: http://www.state.ak.us/dmv/forms/pdfs/812.pdf

Hugh, ,      Age: 52

#2908 10/12/07 2904 Daniel - Car Registration
Daniel,

To register my car owned by me LLC without my name appearing on the form, I appointed a co-worker as VP of Fleet Sales of the LLC for the day, and paid him $50 to go to the DMV with me. He went in, I did not. It is important to hire someone you trust.

Kevin, ,      Age: 53

#2907 10/12/07 Re: Ciphers
If we're going to be discussing manual-action ciphers, I have a personal recommendation: the Solitaire Cipher. It was created by Bruce Schneier, a well-known encryption expert, and can be implemented using only a deck of cards and a piece of paper to write the message on. Perhaps a piece of paper, as well, to use for scratch paper. The reason I recommend it is because it is a hand cipher that can compete with computer ciphers. A hand cipher that is just as annoying to the folks with the big computers trying to uncover our secrets as GPG-encrypted email (I won't reference PGP because it's been shown to have a "feature" that could, with some effort, be used to compromise the system, and it's closed source besides, so there is no way to know if there are other "features" that might turn into backdoors). I'll stop rambling though, and let Mr. Schneier do the talking.
URL #1: http://www.schneier.com/solitaire.html

Elliott, ,      Age: 19

#2906 10/12/07 Ciphers
Since there seems to be a lot of issue on the backdoor or flaw in PGP. Then here is a website that shows one how to create a cipher wheel and instructions on how to use it. It is done by hand so no computer records are stored, unless you want that. No nmenonics are possible since it is so long. So if you want to construct a secret message, here is way to do it. A good hobby to have at present perhaps?
URL #1: http://www.sniperflashcards.com/cryptography.php

Hugh, ,      Age: 52

#2904 10/11/07 LLCs
I read your book "How To Be Invisible Revised." If I show up at any DMV with a car to register, it seems to me they will want to know my name. In PA the title exchange is done at a notaries and every time I bought a vehical they demanded ID. Please tell me where I can register a vehical without the government knowing I own it. I am interested in starting a LLC and also want to own land anonymously.

Daniel, ,      Age: 48
I cannot speak for every state, but my own experience has been that yes, I am asked for ID, but the clerk merely checks that the name matches the face. I then sign by printing the name of the LLC, followed by my illegible signature, and "member." (Afer all, Daniel, someone has to sign for any legal entity.) The clerk then prints out the registration, which lists ONLY the LLC.
... Later, if a private investigator had a friend check the license plate, only the LLC name will come up.
... The same goes for land purchases. The title company has my name, but if someone--anyone--checks the county website looking for any land owned by me, my name will not come up.

#2903 10/11/07 IRS/Credit Card Reporting
First- Thanks for reposting the Big Bros. Pizza clip; I haven't seen it. Hilarious.

This in a CPA publication (Taxing Subjects, Oct 2007):

The IRS is looking to close the "Tax Gap"...the difference between taxes owed and taxes actually collected."

In the cross hairs are self-employed individuals who don't report their entire income.

"One interesting suggestion by the IRS is to require credit card companies to report payments to any sole proprietor of more than $600 in a year, simliar to the 1099 reporting rules."


Theresa, ,      Age: 43

#2902 10/11/07 LLC Title & Registration in Oregon
I live in Oregon and I want to buy a new vehicle here and register it here with a NMLLC as the owner. Oregon has no sales tax and therefore the DMV is very wary of out-of-state entities buying vehicles here to avoid taxes.

I made some inquiries over the phone to DMV. They said that I had to have residency here to title a vehicle here. I am unclear on my course of action.

Should I buy it in my name and transfer title to the NMLLC later?

Jack, ,      Age: 54
Yes, that might work, and should not be too expensive since Oregon has no sales tax. Or, can you give an Oregon address for the LLC? If so, ask if that might help. (I suggest you make a personal visit to the DMV, rather than call on the telephone.)

#2900 10/11/07 Canadian Tax Authorities Have Been Granted Access to EBay's Records
JJ,

Here is an excerpt from a Canadian trade journal discussing the impact of the ruling.

Advocates: eBay Ruling Raises Privacy Concerns The Federal Court in Canada has ruled that Canada's tax collectors can examine how much income high-volume sellers are making by peddling goods on eBay. The ruling found that Canada's government has the right to gain access to computer documents stored on servers in other countries when it comes to tax issues, according to this New York Times article. The ruling raises a red flag for many Canadians who are opposed to access to their personal information stored on computers in the U.S.
URL #1: http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=r5uwafcab.0.audnefcab.f9ki7zaab.4468&ts=S0287&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2007%2F10%2F01%2Ftechnology%2F01ebay.html%3F_r%3D1%26oref%3Dslogin

Mike, ,      Age: 36

#2899 10/11/07 Welcome to the big brother pizza shop
This video shows a REAL good reason for practicing privacy.
URL #1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zh9fibMaEk

Daniel, ,      Age: 35
Daniel, this video has been posted here before. However, in case a few newer readers missed it, I am allowing it to be posted again.

#2898 10/11/07 Georgia Driver's license
In Georgia, when you move you have a certain number of days to go to the Department of Drivers Services to report your change of address. I went there and did the change of address, but was allowed to put my P.O. Box number on the actual license. The lady at DDS said something interesting when I asked her to do that. She said that if I was pulled over by the police, they would not be able to pull up my home address. They would only see the P.O. Box.

Mark, ,      Age: 35

#2897 10/11/07 LLC ownership & getting sued
I must be missing the point, but in process of being sued/investigated what if you are simply asked to list all your assets? Or what is your affiliation with such LLC?
In case of house-ownership by LLC and one simply 'renting' - can you be asked for contact for LLC and/or proofs of rent payments?

Josh, ,      Age: 29
If you are ever subjected to a deposition, then yes, you will be asked to reveal all assets. Your goal should be to never find yourself in such a position.

#2896 10/10/07 CDL & SSN
Years ago California DMV required SSN. I had protested on privacy grounds.

They let me continue using old DL # without displaying SSN on DL.

Shortly after that they stopped using SSN as DL # but still require SSN to obtain a DL.

According to DMV its to catch deadbeats who don't pay childsupport, etc...

John, ,      Age: 57

#2895 10/10/07 Response to Charlie re: LLCs
Charlie, good looking out. I've found success, however, simply in having my LLCs own my personal and business property and having the LLCs that own the business property in DE and the ones that own my personal property in NM and keeping my true name out of the business records by having a nominee file my paperwork. No one I don't want to know my personal LLCs exist knows. PIs can find one credit card in my name and my vehicle, which I'm about to sell and replace with one paid in cash and registered in an LLC I've already set up. I've taken many of the other steps you mentioned to protect myself and my property and I'm pretty well-hidden because I've learned to mind my own business, keep to myself (while not being a recluse) and not be as transparent as American think they need to be these days. People know where I and my assets are on a need to know basis, ONLY. I try to manage what gets into any database about me by choosing what information I provide very carefully. The bottom line is that privacy isn't cheap or easy but, BOY, is it worth it. I have peace of mind I haven't had in, well, EVER!

Wendy, ,      Age: 43
Welcome to the club, Wendy!

#2894 10/10/07 Sydney, CDL and SSNs
Yes, Sydney. California has required SSNs for as long as I can remember. When I first applied for a DL (back in '84), I had to submit my SSN and a thumbprint. I also had to sign a form that stated I understood submission of the SSN and thumbprint was completely voluntary and required by State law.

Robin, ,      Age: 44

#2893 10/10/07 Medical records
The attached URL describes what is common in America, when someone wants to know more about what exactly happened or wants to get some voyeuristic compulsion met, they sacrifice privacy of others to meet their own gratification.
URL #1: http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/10/10/clooney.records/index.html

Mike, ,      Age: 36

#2892 10/10/07 SSN on DL (Sydney 2886)
I can't answer for CA, but MA has only cracked down on SSN in the last few years. 20 years ago I refused to give them my SSN and still got a license. 10 years ago, they asked for my SSN as a condition of renewal, so I gave them a transposed version. It was only last year that I got a notice that my SSN had been checked, was invalid, and they would not renew my license without the valid one, period.

Two notes: First, MA claims exemption from the Privacy statutes because they first asked for SSN before the statute went into effect. Second, the law (in MA) requiring SSN is actually one intended to find deadbeat dads, not make licenses more secure. See the link for detailed info. I'm sure CA has similar info with different excuses.
URL #1: http://www.mass.gov/rmv/forms/21286ssn.pdf

Mike, ,      Age: 46

#2891 10/10/07 the NEW question search engine
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Howard, ,      Age: 51
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